1992 passed the senate was handed down to the house and heard on the floor today. As of a few minutes ago it had been temporarily postponed while some amendment kinks are worked out. I believe it has been read twice. If it is read again and voted on it passes (that could happen today or tomorrow. It passed the senate with only two nays. I had to call to get this info as none of it has been posted on the senate site, other than the vote count. So God only knows what the final version will be as they are still playing with it on the floor of the house. Which means we can not speak to it.
Since SB 1992 is on the floor HB1111 is probably history. I say prob. because this shit is kinked.
HB137 is also on the floor of the house and we can not speak to it. If it is not read tomorrow it dies. IF it is read it will prob. pass.
SB802 is still in the senate getting some kinks worked out to bring it line with HB137. But it also has gone beyond the point to where we can speak to it.
This really doesn't matter however as 802 was rolled into 1992. So if 1992 passes it passes.
Which caused me to ask some questions that ended up with some yes buts and I don't knows From the Sec of the Senate that suggests I talk to someone who isn't there but she is pretty sure she is right but don't quote her yada yada yada
If I understand it correctly Senate rules prohibit two bills that say the same thing to be on the floor at the same time.
If that is true I wondered how 802 could stand alone and also be in 1992 as the duplicate each other? Her answer is that because one was a stand alone bill and the other was an amendment. That folk would sometimes attach there bills to two or three other bills as amendments to insure their passage. When I asked if she could direct me to where it might find language allowing such language her response was she didn't have the rule book in front of here but she was pretty sure it was ok. And she may well be as apparently there are rules that allow for the suspension of rules and nobody knows them all and on and on and on.................
You still have time to call your senator for whatever it is worth re 802 and your rep for 1992. But do it now.
Now mind you all. Keep this in mind fer sure. All this bullshit started last year when we were raising hell and nobody listened. Nobody cared and some lied their freaking asses off.Add to Technorati Favorites
Rest in peace Ronald J. Ray, former USMC Cpl. Vietnam vet,
Ronald J. Ray, former USMC Cpl. Vietnam vet was laid to rest yesterday outside of Moultrie, Georgia. Ducktape, Tilex, Sam, Cowgirl, Red and I rode up to Moultrie to participate with other Patriot Guard Riders to pay respect with a flag line to honor his service and pay respects. Georgia Police did a fine job escorting the procession to the cemetery and as always when riding out of state I was struck by people who still pull of the road for a funeral.It kind of strikes you when you see a Marine wipe away a tear with a white gloved hand and we all a agreed that, that particular rendition of taps out in the clear countryside was especially haunting.
Thanks to Ducktape for taking pics and we will get them asap.
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SB 1992 passes Senate, HB 137 is back
People hate politics. I hate politics. People hate getting involved. I hate politics. People apparently have no concern that Reagans trickle down theory applies to law too. Did I say I hate Politics. I hate writing politicians. I hate talking to them. They lie.
But my daddy left home when I was eight and my mamas dead. I did not request surrogate parents. So as much as I hate politics and politicians it would appear the only way I can get them out of my life and maintain my freedom and not be treated as a child is to fight the bastards.
This ain't the exact quote, but I believe it was Chester Bowles that said something like, you may not be interested in politics but politics is interested in you .
Scoured the Florida legislative sites. Can not find
1992 in it's final passed version. Though as reported it has passed.
Also received the same note Rogue references.
The original "wheelie/seizure" bill HB137 (Lopez-Cantera) has been
resurrected and placed on the special orders calendar which will be
addressed on the house floor tomorrow. Spoke with someone today that
works with these issues who described the special orders calendar as a
catch all for "parasite" bills. Also from the best I can figure
because it will be heard by the full house in chambers members of the
public will not be able to speak to it.
The seizure provision has been removed. Lopez-Cantera who stated last
year that Doc was helping him with the wording of the bill added an
amendment to his own bill to day. Insuring that the fine of 5000.00
for a third violation which disappeared in one permutation was re
instituted.
Last year I contacted Lopez-Cantera's office speaking to an aide
explaining the discriminatory nature of the bill and was lopez-Cantera
interest on working on a comprehensive safety bill that had value
(which would have included stiffer penalties). The answer was no. Was
advised Doc was working with them which Doc denied as at the time Doc
was announcing do not contact your legislators the bill is dead.
HB1111 which is the companion bill to 1992 has some significant
differences within and does not include the stiffer penalties options.
HB1111 has to brought up to speed with 1992 which is why I believe
HB137 has been resurrected as that language is also not yet in HB1111.
There is one date where action re: 1992 was taken and no info
published. Have to look for the reason for that.
HB1111 still has one committee to go and last I looked is not on an
agenda. Two things can happen (I think), HB1111 can be abandoned,
SB1992 can get messaged to the house taken up in the last comm 1111
was suppose to be heard in and then go to the house for final vote.
Or The house can deny 1992 and send the Senate 1111. As a last resort
a joint committee can be formed whereby members of the house and
senate will fight out the difference.
As it currently stands it would appear (to me anyway) the differences
between HB1111 (sponsored by Greg Evers who attended the Pensacola
Florida ABATE state meeting to voice his opposition to HB137 and seek
support for his bill allowing the right to carry a fire arm in your
vehicle onto the workplace, passed)and 1992 are to great to be
reconciled. Still suspect Evers is Key.
As 1992 has passed that is who needs to be focused on.
Though everything is moving fast. It ain't over. My fear is
Lopez-Cantera is for some reason treated like a fair haired boy and
apparently has a hard on for motorcycles that goes beyond what is seen.Add to Technorati Favorites
Note: The above is to the best of my knowledge and the more I learn
the more I realize know very little.
But my daddy left home when I was eight and my mamas dead. I did not request surrogate parents. So as much as I hate politics and politicians it would appear the only way I can get them out of my life and maintain my freedom and not be treated as a child is to fight the bastards.
This ain't the exact quote, but I believe it was Chester Bowles that said something like, you may not be interested in politics but politics is interested in you .
Scoured the Florida legislative sites. Can not find
1992 in it's final passed version. Though as reported it has passed.
Also received the same note Rogue references.
The original "wheelie/seizure" bill HB137 (Lopez-Cantera) has been
resurrected and placed on the special orders calendar which will be
addressed on the house floor tomorrow. Spoke with someone today that
works with these issues who described the special orders calendar as a
catch all for "parasite" bills. Also from the best I can figure
because it will be heard by the full house in chambers members of the
public will not be able to speak to it.
The seizure provision has been removed. Lopez-Cantera who stated last
year that Doc was helping him with the wording of the bill added an
amendment to his own bill to day. Insuring that the fine of 5000.00
for a third violation which disappeared in one permutation was re
instituted.
Last year I contacted Lopez-Cantera's office speaking to an aide
explaining the discriminatory nature of the bill and was lopez-Cantera
interest on working on a comprehensive safety bill that had value
(which would have included stiffer penalties). The answer was no. Was
advised Doc was working with them which Doc denied as at the time Doc
was announcing do not contact your legislators the bill is dead.
HB1111 which is the companion bill to 1992 has some significant
differences within and does not include the stiffer penalties options.
HB1111 has to brought up to speed with 1992 which is why I believe
HB137 has been resurrected as that language is also not yet in HB1111.
There is one date where action re: 1992 was taken and no info
published. Have to look for the reason for that.
HB1111 still has one committee to go and last I looked is not on an
agenda. Two things can happen (I think), HB1111 can be abandoned,
SB1992 can get messaged to the house taken up in the last comm 1111
was suppose to be heard in and then go to the house for final vote.
Or The house can deny 1992 and send the Senate 1111. As a last resort
a joint committee can be formed whereby members of the house and
senate will fight out the difference.
As it currently stands it would appear (to me anyway) the differences
between HB1111 (sponsored by Greg Evers who attended the Pensacola
Florida ABATE state meeting to voice his opposition to HB137 and seek
support for his bill allowing the right to carry a fire arm in your
vehicle onto the workplace, passed)and 1992 are to great to be
reconciled. Still suspect Evers is Key.
As 1992 has passed that is who needs to be focused on.
Though everything is moving fast. It ain't over. My fear is
Lopez-Cantera is for some reason treated like a fair haired boy and
apparently has a hard on for motorcycles that goes beyond what is seen.Add to Technorati Favorites
Note: The above is to the best of my knowledge and the more I learn
the more I realize know very little.
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