Witness Officer Interviews pertaining to Rachel Hoffman

NOTE: The interviews have a number of redactions which will make the copy look out of sync :

lnvestigator Watson advised he was present at Ms. Rachel Hoffman's residence,
located at 2626 East Park Avenue, number 16303, on April 17, 2008, during the
issuance of the search warrant. lnvestigator Watson recalled illegal drugs being
present in the apartment and probable cause existing for Ms. Rachel Hoffman's
arrest. According to lnvestigator Watson, Ms. Hoffman was not criminally
charged because she was provided the opportunity to work for the Tallahassee
Police Department as a confidential informant (CI). 


On April 18, 2008, Ms Rachel Hoffman came to the Tallahassee Police
Department to complete her confidential informant paperwork (packet). Present
during the interview was lnvestigator Ryan Pender (the case agent) and
lnvestigator Gary Watson. lnvestigator Watson stated that Ms. Hoffman was
read her Miranda Rights and afforded the opportunity to call her attorney.
According to lnvestigator Watson, Ms. Hoffman did not call her attorney because
she did not like him. He stated, "She was afforded that opportunity but her
comment was she did not like her attorney because she thought he was kind of
geekish, kind of weird, she didn't like him." (Page 14:6-9)

According to lnvestigator Watson, Ms. Hoffrn;ll~ ur~uerstood the game of drugs.
"...But once she started talking about the deal that she was going to make, it was
clear to me that she understood the game of drugs and as we express it, say the
game. She was very well versed in the language and how to work the deal ..."
stated lnvestigator Watson, (Page 17:9-13). "She was very fluid in using street
language in terms of describing the drugs, quantities, dollar amounts, things like
I that," recalled lnvestigator Watson (Page 24:19-21). He continued, "The only - I
can express it this way. Me being from a very rough neighborhood growing up
and her jargon would have been very consistent with someone from a very rough
neighborhood who knew the drug game," (Page 24:24 - Page25:2).


When asked if Ms. Hoffman volunteered to purchase MDMA, lnvestigator
Watson advised, "She would have had to," (Page 17:25 - Page 18:2). He also
advised she would have been the one to bring up the firearm. "I believe she
brought that up because we had no reason to believe that there was anything
about a firearm anywhere," (Page 18:3-6).

lnvestigator Watson did not recall a discussion about Drug Court during the
meeting. He stated, "I don't remember Drug Court coming up in that because
normally it's a probation and I don't remember anything from Drug Court coming
up," (Page 20:14-18).

But I do know that she informed us on that time that her
neighbors who were out there that day saw what was happening and the reason
.) did not do the deal was because someone had already  t o l d  that we
 busted her and that she was working for us.  And  ~ n ~ u ~ ~ o s e d l ~   supposedly confronted her
with that. And one of the things was **** came  in and said, hey, you know, I will
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Investigator Watson was present at the meeting on April 21, 2008, with Ms.
Hoffman, and Investigator Pender. He stated, "Yeah, I was present when    was talking
about~would work off the charges and they were
trying to work out whatever the situation between the two of them, in terms of the
and Hoffman, for what she was going to do for &. And I was like - - we
like, hey, that's not what we here for," (Page 26:16). lnvestigator Watson
a reed the conversation was stopped aboutwhat she was going to do for-
a



Investigator Miller
lnvestigator Miller advised he got involved in the investigation involving Ms.
Hoffman at the request of lnvestigator Pender. He said he sat in on control
phone calls she was making to suspect "m He, however, could not recall the
exact date of the phone calls.

lnvestigator Miller said he knew a couple of days prior to May 7, 2008, the
operation was going to occur. He said Ms. Hoffman made numerous attempts
(on May 5, 2008) to contact W by telephone at the              but the
attempts were unsuccessful. He stated, "So, it was discussed with investigator Pender and
and a decision was made to put                  on Hoffman and have her go up to       place of
business      I believe     where
i at that point I believe she met withu-1" (Page 1 7:16-20).
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He recalled the "meet and greet" lasting for approximately 20 minutes. He could
not remember the exact details of the conversation but advised it was recorded.
From what he did recall, Ms. Hoffman seemed comfortable speaking with
'               and in control of what she was saying. "From what I remember, he
basically assured that he could get the drugs that she was wanting. I don't
remember the finite details of it, but it sounded good. We left it thinking yes, that
he was going to be able to get us those particular drugs," said lnvestigator Miller
(Page 18-20-24).
According to lnvestigator Miller the suspect "m was not identified between the
time frame of April 22,2008, and before the May 7, 2008 operation occurred at 6
PM.

We skip some stuff here and move on to

lnvestigator Miller advised he was a part of the primary arrest team for the May
7th operation. From what he recalled from the operational plan, Forest Meadows
Park was not mentioned. He recalled the Wal-Mart (5500 Thornasville Road)
a n d                     a s  the buy locations listed in the plan.

We skip more and move to page 13

Here we are going to excerpt from the obvious

According to lnvestigator Miller after the briefing was over, no one knew exactly
where the buy-bust was to occur.
He stated, "We - had the general location.
We wanted it on Thomasville, the Wal-Mart. However, I think we were going to
have a better idea once - an actual finalized location once more phone calls
were made, which is actually very common," (Page 26:6-12).


When asked if lnvestigator Pender allowed the suspects to pick the buy location,
lnvestigator Miller answered, "I don't know. You have to ask him, lnvestigator
Pender that," (Page 28:lO-13).


'We were informed by units that were already in it (Forest Meadows Park)
that a possible suspect vehicle matching the description of the suspect vehicle
was already there so we set up in a position to where we could try to see it. We
couldn't see if from where we were at," said lnvestigator Miller (Page 29:3-7).
lnvestigator Miller advised no one ran the license plate of the vehicle to try and
identify whom the car belonged to.


He stated, "...I
believe Rachel Hoffman pulled into the first entrance off Meridian to the park,
which is south of the main entrance in the parking lot where we wanted her to go.
And somehow in there, I don't know, 1 didn't see any of it, she had pulled back
out and was supposed to come to our location - - or go to our location and return,
which she never did," (Page 29:16-23).
lnvestigator Miller said he never saw Ms. Hoffr nan er iter Forest Meadows Park.
The interview was concluded at I :30 PM.


Investigator Corbitt was interviewed which picks up on page 14. This part is heavily blacked out.

Later in the interview lnvestigator Corbitt was asked to further explain what
training is necessary to be a "superuser" in regards to surveillance equipment.
1 He stated, "There is not a designated standard that someone satisfies to become
a superuser.
It is based on a selection by the sergeant for who will participate,
the desire of that person to participate, and then the additional training that is
provided." (page 352-6)

Approx. a paragraph is blacked out apparently referring to equipment they "no longer have" Page 16 is also heavily blacked out but appears to be a discussion of the operations and strategies for setting up monitoring equipment.

We skip to Investigator Tucker describing procedure for documenting CI's.

According to Officer Tucker, it is the investigator's
responsibility to do the background check on potential Cls. This background
check includes a criminal history check. Officer Tucker stated, "Obviously we
check JIS and FCIC." (page 155) Officer Tucker stated pretrial release and

Page 18
diversion programs such as the Drug Court program are not an issue when
enlisting a CI.

The rules of confidential informants (CI) are to follow were discussed with Officer
Tucker. According to Officer Tucker, the list is "pretty comprehensive as far as
telling them what to do, what they're not allowed to do and such." (page I1 :22-
24)
Officer Tucker was asked if was against the rules for a CI to discuss their work
with the Tallahassee Police Department with another suspect, one they're
attempting to "set up". He stated, "Yes." (page 12:4) Later in the interview he
stated this would be cause for him to dismiss the CI. (page 19:3)

Officer Tucker was asked about a situation where one CI paid another CI to work
for Vice and for that work to count towards the first Cl's substantial assistance.
Officer Tucker was asked if he would have a problem with that. He stated,
"Yeah. I just - no, I don't - again, I'm sort of a stickler as far as, I don't like Cls. I
don't trust Cls. I don't like using Cls. I kept them lower level just for that reason."



 Officer Tucker assisted in
E      Cl  Rachel Hoffman was to use in the operation. He missed approximately 70 percent of the operational briefing (page 43:7). His knowledge of the operation, who was in attendance at the briefing, and their assignments was limited to the operational plan.

Officer Tucker was asked if he knew what the safeguards were in case of a
robbery or should CI Rachel Hoffman chose not to follow directions. He stated, "I
wasn't at the briefing for that part. I know what normally would happen. As far
as the particular operation I don't know."


Investigator's Note: It should be noted the three Investigators in Officer
Tucker's vehicle, Larremore, Laursen, and Porter, are members of the
Career Criminal Unit and the Tactical Apprehension and Control (TAC)
team. They were carrying gear to assist the operation should a violent
encounter occur.

Officer Tucker was asked if concern of counter-surveillance by the suspects
would warrant calling off the operations. He stated, "Depends if we had seen
that counter-surveillance or not. Again, it's something you're always aware of. Some of your dopers do it automatically." (page 575-8)

We are now on page 21

When lnvestigator Pender radioed to units that CI Rachel Hoffman was on
Gardner Road, Officer Tucker and his team left the parking lot and headed north
on North Meridian Road. According to Officer Tucker, no one in his vehicle knew
where Gardner Road was located. At some point, he was given directions over
the radio that Gardner Road was approximately two miles north of Thompson
Circle.

Officer Tucker did not activate his lights and siren when responding to Gardner
Road. Officer Tucker stated, "I was tom between activating lights and sirens. If
this is going bad to a robbery, they hear it coming, and something bad happens,
which we didn't know at the time she was already - so I was torn between getting
there as fast as I could and not alerting the bad guys until we got there. At that
point we didn't care about the takedown as far as the arrest. We didn't care
about the dope. We were going to get our CI back.
Investigator Boccio isn ow being interviewed and states:

According to lnvestigator Boccio, the Drug Court program is not an
issue.


I ave to stop here a moment and make a statement as so far we have heard that refrain 
Drug Court program is not an issue. On the contrary anyone involved with the profession
"Professional" law enforcement pesonnel will tell you that is a major issue. If they are not in agreement with that point they have no business being.


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POLICE LOSE RACHEL HOFFMAN IN LESS THAN 30 MINUTES

IN LESS THAN ONE HALF HOURS TIME FROM LEAVING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT
RACHEL HOFFMAN IS GONE!

6:30pm SA Andris reports Ms. Hoffman, Investigator Pender, Officer Pate,
and himself are leaving Tallahassee Police Department.
6:30 pm Pender calls Hoffman (2 min. 58 sec. Conversation)
6:33 pm Investigator Pender tells units that '- phoned Ms. Hoffman to
tell her he was at Forest Meadows. They had just passed Tharpe
Street on North Meridian.
6:34 pm Text messages between Hoffman and Ben Reeves
Hoffman: 'I just got wired up wish me luck I'm on my way."
Reeves: "Good luck babe! Call me and let me know what's up"
Hoffman: "its about to go down"
6:34pm Test messages between Hoffman and Liza Patty
Hoffman: "Park off meridian now"
Patty: "And old Bainbridge?"
Hoffman: "Its far ill call u after"
6:36pmPender calls Hoffman (1 min. 55 sec. onv versa ti on)
Investigator Pender tells SA Andris to "keep your eyes on her (Ms.
Hoffman)" while he moves back to turn the listening device on.
6:36pmnvestigator Pender advised units that they are passing Timberlane
Road on North Meridian Road and Ms. Hoffman is calling
6:38PM Hoffm calls-
From *
"Yeah, this is like the residential side, yeah it was like on the east
side of the residential neighborhood, but um, right, so the, we're ...
alright ... so after I go, sorry, I'm gonna go down this hill after
Maclay and then I turn left on the Ox Bottom?
6:39PM Investigator Pender advises he is overhearing Ms. Hoffman's side of
the conversation and that is attempting to send her to Ox
Bottom Road.
6:40PM Investigator Pender advises they are approaching Maclay School.
According to his report, Investigator Pender pulls into Maclay
School to park and monitor Ms. Hoffman's wire.
6:41PM Pender calls Hoffman 1 min. 37 sec. Conversation) '
From Pendw
"Hey ... he's telling me to go to his dad's nursery, or some shit, I'm
not even sure, I'm going through Maclay right now if you see me,
TALLAHASSEE POLICE DEPARTMENT
INTERNAL AFFAIRS UNIT
I'm actually going down this ... Unhuh ... alright, perfect, he told me
to get in his car. .. yeah I know I'm not getting in there ... aright so,
I'm gonna go down this, on my left? Right here turn left? Alright I
don't see the other car out there, 1/11 pull in here."
6:41PM SA Andris advises units that Ms. Hoffman pulled into baseball fields.
6:42PM Investigator Pender advises units that - is attempting to direct
Ms. Hoffman to the nursery.
6:43PM Pender calls Hoffman (20 second conversation)
You there? Alright .... Ball park ... alright, I'll call you right back ...
person.
6:43pmInvestigator Pender advises units that he is directing Ms. Hoffman
to pull into Forest Meadows Park. She is to tell ''that is where
she is.
Hoffman speaks to ,' (2 min, 45 sec. Conversation)
6:45 pm From Kel transcription:
"Hey, alright I'm pulling into the park with the tennis courts right
now, cause I have no idea where I am ... unintell ... alright ... I'm in
my Volvo" (loses signal)
6:45pm Pender attempts to call Hoffman (no answer)
6:45pm Investigator Pender asks units at Forest Meadows Park if they see
her. They do not.
6:46pm Investigator Pender advises he has lost Ms. Hoffman on the wire
and can not get her on the phone.
Pender attempts to call Hoffman (no answer)
6:46pm SA Andris advises the suspect BMW is parked at the nursery
occupied by two black males, parked with nose out by the road.
6:46pm Investigator Pender advises units that he cannot get Ms. Hoffman
by phone or wire and that they need to keep eyes on the suspect
vehicle at the nursery.
6:46pm Pender attempts to call Hoffman (no answer)
6:46 pm SA Andris advises the suspect BMW is parked at the nursery
occupied by two black males, parked with nose out by the road.
Investigator Pender advises units that he cannot get Ms. Hoffman
by phone or wire and that they need to keep eyes on the suspect
vehicle at the nursery
6:47pm Pender attempts to call Hoffman (no answer)
6:47pm SA Andris advises he is turning around to get back to the nursery.
6:47PM Sgt. Looney advises to get back with the suspect
vehicle to ensure Ms. Hoffman does not pull in and make the deal
outside their presence.
6:48 pm Pender speaks to Hoffman on her phone (42 sec. Conversation)
6:48 pm Investigator Pender advises units that Ms. Hoffman in on Gardner
Road following - He advises units to go to Gardner Road and
move in immediately.
6:52 pm Investigator Finales and Investigator Porter advise the arrest teams
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Rachel Hoffman investigations released Part 1

The Tallahassee Democrat has released portions of the Tallahassee Police Report today.  The delayed Release was to give all parties concerned time “Redact” (Blackout) certain portions of the report.

All reports combined include over 500+/- pages.  We are going to slog through them and will post what we feel are significant to the police actions in the case leaving out wherever possible all the if's and's and but's. However in so doing what is posted here will not be the WHOLE story and no guarantee can be made that any bias I may have will not influence what I do or do not choose to post,
I will try and save my bias for comments later. Although we will bold and highlight items of particular interest.

Our contention is this case is extremely important for reasons we have already mentioned and if you read just this page you can see why, I hope.

Those wishing to slog through it all with me can got Talgov.com where it is also posted in PDF form.



"In this case, we are talking about good police officers who made mistakes, but we have to be held accountable for our mistakes and we have to make immediate changes," Tallahassee City Manager Anita Favors Thompson said.

12:20pm

Tallahassee Police Chief Dennis Jones has announced that one officer has been terminated and others suspended without pay as a result of violation of policies in the Rachel Hoffman case.

Jones said he has also reprimanded the deputy chief and has been reprimanded himself by City Manager Anita Favors Thompson.

The chief said he himself will have more supervision, as will the vice unit that was in charge of the case.

"I accept this discipline as constructive and accept that the responsibility of managing this department starts with me," Jones said.

Jones says as a result of the case, policies and procedures will be changed.

12:28pm

The City of Tallahassee today released its 199-page Internal Affairs Report into the Hoffman confidential informant case and provided details on the disciplinary action that is being taken within the Tallahassee Police Department (TPD). In addition, the city released a report from the Attorney General’s (AG) Office, which had been requested by City Manager Anita Favors Thompson and Police Chief Dennis Jones. The AG’s report reviewed the policies of the Tallahassee Police Department in regard to this case and TPD’s adherence to the policies



Both the TPD Internal Affairs Report and the AG’s report found that TPD overall had well-established policies, however the policies were not always adhered to at the required level. Violations of policy were found in areas including: confidential information documentation and control, supervision, drug buy/bust operations, officer conduct and use of flash funds Disciplinary action has been taken by Police Chief Dennis Jones as follows:

Deputy Chief John Proctor, reprimand
Captain Chris Connell, two-week suspension without pay
Lieutenant Taltha White, two-week suspension without pay
Sergeant David Odom, two-week suspension without pay
Sergeant Rod Looney, two-week suspension without pay
Investigator Ryan Pender, employment terminated

City Manager has also taken disciplinary action by issuing a reprimand to the police chief to require a more stringent level of supervision from the top down.

Chief Jones is making reassignments of Connell, White and Odom within the department.

“While we cannot change the events of May 7, we can make the type of changes within the department to help ensure our future actions are consistent with policy,” Jones added.


12:45pm

Tallahassee police Investigator Ryan Pender lost track of slain informant Rachel Hoffman when he turned into the Meridian Sports Complex instead of following her to Forest Meadows, according to a report released by police and the city of Tallahassee today. He didn't try to get someone else to tail her.

Pender was fired after an internal-affairs investigation into the botched drug sting in May that led to Hoffman’s death.

Pender was aware that Hoffman had met with a potential suspect outside his control and against direction, the report says. He also knew she set up a deal with a suspect without consulting him and that she had disclosed her confidential informant status to a suspect.

He also allowed her to go alone in her car to meet two men for the drug deal, the report says. He let her decided where to put the listening device, recording device and money.

3:02pm

Tallahassee police vice investigators didn’t know the “full identity” of one of the suspects from whom slain informant Rachel Hoffman was to buy drugs and a gun May 7, according to a report released by city officials today.

Andrea Green, 25, and Deneilo Bradshaw, 23, have been charged with Hoffman's murder. The report doesn’t say who was unknown to police

Forestmeadows was not the original location for the drug deal, the report from an internal-affairs investigation says. Bradshaw and Green called Hoffman and told her to meet them at Forestmeadows minutes before the arranged time of the deal. From there, she followed them down Gardner Road.

According to the report, the officers should have considered several factors in making this change of location. Traffic was bad northbound on two-lane North Meridian Road after 5 p.m. The road is also lined with tall, shady trees that made aircraft surveillance “useless,” the report says. Hoffman was not familiar with the area. Also, Forestmeadows is a public park with citizens present.


Tallahassee police Investigator Ryan Pender, whose firing was announced today, didn’t follow her to Forestmeadows and instead turned in at the Meridian Sports Complex. He didn’t arrange for anyone else to follow her, according to the report.

The money Pender gave Hoffman for the sting, $13,000 in recorded bills, was stolen and police haven’t recovered all of it, the report says

3:07 pm
AG (Attorney General) investigators found 32 potential violations of department policies and procedures.

They include: Officer Ryan Pender using Hoffman as a confidential informant 10 days before her paperwork was signed off on by his supervisor; having an informant without the required experience providing information to the police; and keeping her on even after Pender knew she had told someone she was planning to bust that she was working for the policeAdd to Technorati Favorites.